WHAT IF...Ron Is A Lie

I tuned in today a half hour late so I missed the first part of Ron's "sermon". He used a whining tone to mock those who might be thinking "what if nothing happens...my house, my investments, my job". Well I say to all PKG members, What if Ron is a deluded cult or just plain con artist? We don't have long to wait, do we?

Ron said "we don't know where, how, when, until it happens". But in his book he set out very clearly where, how, and when it will happen, while declaring himself a prophet of the God of Abraham. Have you forgotten what is written in black and white in 2008 God's Final Witness? It is 76 days until Ron's prediction of Jesus returning preceeded by the great three and one half year tribulation. We were on the doorstep of horror way back in 2008, according to Ronald Weinland. Where are all Ron's calamities and economic collapses, nuclear explosions in port cities and all those dead bodies? And the millions turning to Ron for salvation of the "truth".

Ron does not want to hear anyone who says the economy is getting better and the stock market is sailing upwards.

We should not be caught off guard. Certain people who are listening, who like to tear apart and find fault with what I say have perverted, distorted, twisted minds.

That is the kind of brainwashing Ron uses to keep control of his sheep. Don't question what is happening in the world, just keep listening and obeying Ron.

I look forward to when some of Ron's followers will be free from his "filth, distortion, and twisting" of the gospel. Many who finally escape Armstrongism become atheists. Is that the purpose of your gospel Ron?, Atheism? Of course when Jesus does not return on May 27th, it will not be because you are a false prophet, it will be because the COG PKG fell into the same snare as all those others who believed they could know the date of Jesus Christ's return. It couldn't be because you are the one perverting and twisting the gospel of Jesus Christ. After all, Jesus lied when he said "I am He".

Ronald Weinland teaches that Jesus Christ is a liar. But the PKG members are blind to Ron's twisting of the scriptures. Therefore they shall reap what they sow.

As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

SAVED!

I saved two hours of my life today. I didn't listen to Ron's sermon. Dill Weed always has a quick summary for me to read. I don't feel like writing anything today so I'll just post this:

“If by Pentecost [June 8 2008] I’m just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost [June 8, 2008] it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching. Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on aaaaall those interviews that I have held. To do less. Well. Would be quite insane.”

Ronald Weinland said that years ago. He also said many other things that make him a liar. He's a pretty good con artist because he still has a following. Where else can you join a church and become an elder in less than two weeks?

Three Years Ago

I started my own blog three years ago. At that time Ronald Weinland was aggressively preaching the apocalypse. Since his tribulation start date of April 2008 did not happen, he gave another date extending his deadline a further six months. Here is my first post 26 Aug 2008 and unlike Ronald Weinland, I stand behind my words and they are still true:

Ronald Weinland can't read what is in the Bible and understand it. Whenever someone starts adding up dates and bible codes, they end up in a precarious state.
"Of that day and that hour knoweth no man, nor the angels in heaven, but the Father only"
Looks pretty plain to me cause I can read.

That is word for word with no omissions. If we look back through time will we see any changes or deletions from Ron's website? You better believe it. He has changed horses so many times, I can not count. Three years ago the doorstep of horror was right around the corner, delayed six months on account of mercy.

Ron told you the American economy would fail, the dollar would be worthless, nuclear explosions would happen in American port cities, gold would be worthless, and so would your retirement savings. Last time I checked, gold was more than 1600 an ounce. When Ron was telling us gold would be worthless, it was worth about 800 an ounce.

There is a president in the whitehouse and the Americans will be having another election soon. There is no beast power sacking the planet, requiring all to go the the Roman Catholic Church. All that has happened is Ron continues to preach about himself being a prophet and more. As for his prophecies, none have come true. As for his followers, he still has a tight grip on the reins.

Speaking from Los Angeles on Saturday, he said we had seen "some thunders" in reference to the moderate earthquake in the eastern U.S. and the Hurricane Irene which fizzled out compared to what was projected. And when talking about how the people go down to the front of the televangelist churches, he said they do not understand it is Satan. A PKG member sitting up close made a comment about Satan to which Ron immediately cut him off with:

Be careful. Don't monkey around with Satan, See. I can say certain things because of who I am and what I have to say, but you can't so don't monkey around

Well Well Well. Ron says don't monkey around with Satan. The Bible says resist the devil and he will flee from you. Ron says there will be destruction and horrors. Where are all these "prophecies" which were written in his book? You have been lied to. Who is the father of lies? Satan, the devil. When someone says out loud that Satan is sick, does Ron agree or jump on the guy with chastisement.

And another thing. How come Ron cannot read anything that Jesus said without getting nervous? I have remarked many times about how he slowly drills into your head a scripture he twists into his sermon. But what about how he goes from forceful to quickly reading something about Jesus as if it were trivial:

After dwelling on how Matt 24 means PKG is the Temple and PKG members are the stones he switched over to Revelation. While in Laodicean he drilled it into their heads and then very quickly read "Behold I stand at the door and knock; If any man open I will come into him So anyway. It's a matter of having God's spirit, hearing the church of god, and the willingness to change". He does this all the time. Trivialising the verses that don't fit in with his sermon. And dwelling on the verses that are easily twisted.

Nine months left you PKG members. What will you do on May 27th? Will you continue to worship your idol? That would be insane.

ARE YOU READY?

According to the Ronald Weinland archive of facts, August 21st is the latest date that Ronald has stated for the fifth trumpet. I can't remember what the fifth trumpet is but I think it might be nuclear explosions in the port cities of the United States. Whatever it is, it's horrors. And by the packaging labelling coming out of China, perhaps Ron is right about Germany rising. (check out the german flag on the photo above)

Ron's latest sermon he mentioned the date "May 27th two thousand and twelve" twice. He mentioned Mr Armstrong so many times but did not give any glory to Jesus. He twisted Revelation 14:4 verse about the 144000 not being virgins but that they are those who have not been defiled by the great whoredom of false christianity. If that were true, it would have read "the woman clothed in purple and scarlet" not "women".
Sorry Ron, it means exactly what it says:

Rev 14:4 It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are chaste(Greek: virgins); it is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes; these have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are spotless.

Ronald Weinland is not one of the virgins, and his mouth is full of lies when it comes to the scriptures. Ron is not spotless.

Yes, the ETERNAL God, the God of Abraham has sent me to you. I am to state clearly that I am an end-time prophet, a prophet of the God of Abraham. --page 17 GFW 2008

You are a blasphemous liar Ronald Weinland. You are not spotless.


I had quite a bit to say for this post but I waited too long and now it is bedtime.

CURSING FROM THE MOUNTAINTOP

Ronald Weinland finally revealed his inner self today. During an extended period of frustration he took the Name in vain. The Ten Commandments do not apply to Ronald Weinland, and he may change the words in the Bible anytime he pleases, because he is not a Prophet of God. He has nothing to do with Holiness. Ronald Weinland is a liar and a thief. Read on:

"Testing one two three" resulted in a booming reverbration making him sound like he had the voice of many waters speaking from the mountaintop. I thought this was a great sound effect for a false prophet trying to sound witnessfully powerful.

dead air

"weird weird weird"

frustrated sighs

"Give me a break"

more frustrated sighs

The theme from the Good the Bad and the Ugly played for about three seconds. I do not know if this was a localized hack or someones cellphone ringtone, but I thought it was funny.

Ron's audio woes went on for about an hour. He bacame exceedingly frustrated, and powerfully so. "I was dumbfounded" by what happened next.

another sigh or two then a frustrated exclamation "Jesus!" then I guess Laura or someone else hit the mute or disconnect. How can a Prophet of God or an Apostle take the name of God in vain? Because he is a false prophet who does not believe in God. Can you imagine the real apostles cursing the name of Jesus Christ? Sorry Ron, you are busted!

They then read scripture about Jesus giving power to cast out demons, etc. as audio testing material.

at 3:17 pm EST audio was starting to sound better

All he had to do was turn down the mic gain or move the mike farther away from his lying blaspemous mouth.

I guess Giannotta's prayer to hold the technology together should have been said before they turned on the machines. But it does not matter who says the prayer because Ron does not believe in God. He runs his hollywood religion programme for money!

On the 31st day of July 2011, sometime after 3pm, Ronald Weinland took the name of God in vain over an open broadband connection. Good thing the mic gain was up so high or I would never have heard him say it. All you PKG'ers are following a con artist who breaks the Ten Commandments! My own ears heard him angrily curse with the Name of Jesus Christ, and I was not the only one who heard him.

Still Twisting

On Saturday Ron was still drilling his version of 1 John 4 into the heads of PKG with more about "coming in the flesh" and "to come in us, to dwell in us". That is a contradiction of what the Bible says. Ron still won't admit Jesus has "come in the flesh" and now he is working on Revelation.

Fear not I am the first and the last, and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades. Ron says the first and the last means the same as the beginning and the end and the Alpha and the Omega. "It does not mean I am eternally existing"

Sorry Ron, but yes it does mean he eternally existed. This is demonstrated in the Bible in several passages, including the famous "before Abraham was, I am" and "I am the first and the last". Let us see how Ron can twist this one:

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

The Bible says Jesus was with God the Father in the beginning. Ron says the Bible and God the Father, and Jesus Christ are all liars! I say Ron is a liar.

Ron's Plan for you -- Wayne Matthews

I could not listen to Wayne's grovelling to Ron today. I skipped through very quickly listening to sound bytes here and there. It did not seem to me that he was yelling at Ron's followers in a condescending Ron-tone. But he was promoting and teaching the lies that Ron speaks.

At 1:22:50 into the "sermon" Wayne started spewing the nonsense of Jesus continually coming in his flesh. This is a technique used by cults all over the world. Take a sentence in the bible and manipulate the words to mean something entirely different, but don't read the paragraph before that sentence or after it. Unfortunately for Ronald Weinland, this sentence is mentioned twice by John, and is designed to identify those who would try to change the word of God and lead you astray with your checkbook

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THE WORD OF GOD IS FREE. No tithing required! Jesus paid the ultimate tithe for all mankind. Yes you can buy a bible, but there are many organisations that will give you a bible absolutely free and no questions asked. The Gideons put bibles in hotels all over the world. When I was a kid they went into the schools and gave a small pocket new testament to every kid in the class. Even to the kids they knew would throw them in the garbage.

Now regarding the "35th truth" why not take it the way it is written in the new testament without any sorcery or babbling nonsense:

1 John 4:1-4
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already.

So there it is in black and white. And here it is again in 2 John 1:7

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Back when that was written, the Jews thought that the Christ (or Messiah) was coming but they did not believe that Jesus was the Christ. The Christ came in the flesh, was crucified to death and then resurrected to eternal life. There were many during the time of the Apostles who were saying the Christ had not yet been born in the flesh.

I say Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and the new testament says that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Ronald Weinland will not acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh and instead, he twists that scripture to mean something entirely different.

He will retort that the translation is mistaken. The original manuscripts from which the present bible come from were in Greek. Ask a greek orthodox priest what is written in his bible. It will match what is written in your bible. There is no secret conspiracy to cover up the words in the gospel. Unless you count the conspiracy of Ronald Weinland and all those like him.


Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. -- Jesus Christ

So taking into account the above quote of Jesus' words, is Jesus a liar?

Or is Ronald Weinland and company deceived and deceiving?

FINALLY, a Prophecy That Is True

Ronald Weinland, author and prophet and now a self appointed apostle as well, made a prophetic statement today:



"Many of you here today are not going to be here in a year"
--I predict that this one will be his only true prophecy.


I'll agree with that one. Who could stand his babbling and stay in his congregation for more than a year? (I knew what he was the first time I heard him speak.)

I won"t however agree with these ones:

The PKG is the ONLY place God is working. and You do not have the right to question Ron.

So for those of you who will not be under Ron's spell a year from now....I applaud you for escaping the deceptions of a con artist. And I am saddened by those who will leave and resort to atheism. Those who lose their faith are the triumph of Ron's work. His only purpose in this world is to discredit the gospel of Jesus Christ. I guess I am not really saddened, because the Word says Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy. I am no longer concerned with what other people do. History has proven to me that no amount of counselling will change the minds of some people, because most people are going to do what they want anyway.

The saints obediantly gave their lives to make sure the gospel was recorded. And God has made the words that came out of the mouth of Jesus endure to this day. There is no reason for any man to be required to proclaim the gospel to the whole world......because it has already been done. A bible can be found almost anywhere. Anyone who requires money of you to preach the gospel is most likely a liar and a thief. It really is that simple.

Ever heard of the eleventh commandment? That is all you really need to know. Be a good person. It's that simple.

The only reason Ron got rid of the tradition of sermonettes is because he didn't want anyone reading the gospel out loud, in it's entirety, and without interuptions of interpretation. I wonder what reward Ron will recieve? You can only spend your money in this world.