That's right folks, we are safe from the beast power. At least until August 2011. Ronald Weinland had previously told us the beast power of Germany would reduce the USA to a smoking pile of ashes by the autumn of 2008. But due to Ron's greater understanding the time of the horrors of the beast has been shortened, thus extending our beast free lives for another 22 months.
Yikes! Don't tell me that the amount of days from Oct 10, 2009 to August 2011 is ........gulp.....six hundred and sixty six days?
I've put my calculator in the drawer. I don't want to know!
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Actually.., Ronald did say that the 5th trumpet, when Europe arises, could begin as early as next summer and occur as late as August of 2011. So, you might not have as much time as you think.
Anonymous 5:59 - I'm really so frickin scared I am shaking in my mocking boots. Do you like living in fairy land?
anon said:
"as early as next summer and occur as late as August of 2011"
Since Ron is always late with prophecy, I'll go for the late as August route.
There will be a lot of people blogging on may 28, 2012. So I think I have as much time as I think.
I wonder what Ron's timeline will be in March 2014?
Jack, I'll go with you having much more time than you think.
Hoping Ron's timeline in 2014 is chalk marks on the wall of his cell as he counts down toward his release.
Spoiler alert, Jack ;)
666 days after Oct 10, 2009 is August 7, 2011.
By the way Mike...., some information in your post is wrong. You said, "The revised “time, times, and half-a-time” (or 980 days = 3.5 x 280 days) did not begin until Trumpets of this year, and ends not at Pentecost of 2012, but rather the day before."
That's completely wrong. You need to start listening with both ears if you want to keep all your facts straight which you say you take great pride in. Ronald did say that Pentecost of 2012 IS included in the 980 day count. Once again, Trumpets of this year was NOT incluced in the count of 980 days but Pentecost of 2012 IS. You're getting very sloppy. May I suggest an early retirement from your blogging.
Anon 11:47: And might I suggest that you start to obey your God Almighty (aka Ronnie boy Weinland) and stop looking at these blogs? Don't tell me you have a Facebook account too? Sick, sick, sick.
Oh then again, it's good to have you here. It is through people like yourself that others can know the true nature of your type of 'humility' which you are certainly showing the fruit of here.
Yes, you like to be right don't you. Special, oh so special.
In Australia, this type of 'humility' is called something else, which I will not repeat here.
Say hi to Snow White for me - and keeping drinking that flavour aid - I know you are well and truly addicted to it now.
Anon 11:47, I have listened to the false prophet's nonsense, with both ears. I also have an Excel spreadsheet with the calculations. Both agree. Pentecost 2012 is not part of the count.
Let's make it very simple for you. Since 980 is evenly divisible by 7, then 980 days from any date falls on the same day of the week. With Trumpets 2009 being a Saturday, so is the date 980 days later. Which can't be Pentecost, unless Pentecost has been changed yet again - first falling on a Monday, then a Sunday, and now a Saturday. Well, I guess it's about time to change the day of the week on which Pentecost is observed. HWA changed it, so REW probably will make a change just to emulate his spiritual idol.
Kirrily, in the US we also have a term for such humility. It is carefully translated as "bovine excrement".
Mike - LOL!!!
I'm dumbfounded.
I'm speechless.
The show must go on. I guess.
Ron chastises those who read these blogs, yet here they both are. Subtly inserting dates and explanations under the cloak of anonymity.
Ronald Weinland is a true con artist. I no longer believe he is a deluded minister. He is in it now for the money. Whatever belief he had is long gone, abandoned at the crossroad.
Mike,
Are you kidding? Your own explanation proves you wrong. Let me make it clear for you. Ronald is not starting the 980 day count with Trumpets of 2009. By what Ron said in the LGD sermon, he's starting the count with the next day..., Sunday. And by your own explantion, 980 days later will include Pentecost of 2012. Is that so hard to understand???
It seems Bob Thiel is an hypocrite. He mocks Ronnie's false prophecies but is determined to reinforce HWA's past due prophecies as "coming soon".
Why doesn't Thiel come clean of Armstrong? Because like Ronnie, its a living.
"its a living"
You got that right!
Anonymous, listen to what your spiritual idol says in his LGD sermon beginning at around 49 minutes and 45 seconds.
You need to think about it carefully before stating that I don't understand. Or that I didn't listen.
Poor Anonymous - the 'Mad Hatter' keeps whispering things into his ear - things we can not even begin to understand.
At the 'Tea Party' all the PKG'ers consumed their yearly overdose of Flavor Aid - mixed with special humility (LSD).
After deleting their Facebook accounts, chucking out all the now rotten second round of tribulation food supplies, they can now rest up - until the HORROR begins, again – this time it will happen, for sure – you know, third time lucky.
Ah yes, maybe they can also hold off on the repayments of things they presumptuously bought on interest free, like Laura did, due to the IMINENT collapse of the US Dollar / Economy in January 2009. And yes, the imminent collapse is soon, well, soonish – but sooner than you think, sooner or later.
You guys do know that Obama is just an apparition right? It's alright, Lucy was in the Sky with Diamonds and she told me so.
Mmmmmmm – I’m thinking of converting to Jedi.
Mike,
Again, let me state that you do not understand. You are not listening correctly. You obviously didn't listen to the entire sermon. Here.., let me help you. Go back and listen starting around 1:37 and 26 seconds and play until 1:38 and 26 seconds. This explains it all. You're not going to convince me otherwise so give it up.
No one is out to convince you Anonymous - you are obviously correct.
I'm just not worth to be in your presence.
You must be one of the special, oh so special, sealed ones.
Again, keep drinking in that special drink. Oh yes, and keep being disobedient to your God (Ronnie) - it's so much fun to have you here.
Ah yes, to be correct in one's own mind is truly a beautiful thing - regardless of the EVIDENCE to the contrary.
Hm, this "anonymous" guy obviously didn't get the same memo that certain other "Observers" got. I'm pretty sure RW classifies posting on blogs like this as sinning.
Everytime I think about RW's followers and their ability to completely gloss over the failed prophecies in his 2008: God's Final Witness book, I feel ashamed for humanity as a whole. They're the symptom of the need for Jesus to return.
Anywho, it's good to find one of RW's followers trying to keep the sinking ship afloat. These blogs were getting a bit lonely.
Where's the popcorn?
J: Popcorn is right next to the chocolate ;-)
I hate to admit it, but the anonymous one is correct on this point.
Perhaps the anonymous one could also explain how Weinland has met the test that he defined for himself as a true prophet, the deaths of the 5 ministers of the first phase of the 5th thunder, and how I missed that.
Or how "2008 - GFW" can be believed when nothing else in it has come true, such as the non-demise of the US now more than 6 months after the fall season of 2008. Which according to Ron could be delayed even more than could be "explained" by the 8-month delay between his first and second timelines.
Mike (DDTFA),
I've got a monkey-wrench of sorts to throw into the works.
Anonymous said that Ron stated the 980 day count begins on Sunday the 20th, the day after Trumpets of 2009, making May 27th of 2012 (Pentecost)included in the 980 days, right?
Well guess what?
If you start counting on the 20th, making the 20th as the 1st day of the 980, that gives you 103 days left in 2009, then 365 in 2010, 365 more in 2011, and then in 2012, Pentecost falls on the 148th day, being May 27th.
103 + 365 + 365 + 148 = 981, which means Pentecost of 2012 falls on the 981st day, which means Pentecost is NOT included in the 980 days like Ron says.
Or maybe God wasn't quite right when He revealed to Ron that the count begins on Sept. 20th of 2009.
So Ron and Anonymous aren't quite right, either.
And if MY counting is wrong, I stand humbly corrected.
RK, I don't think that works.
If you start on Sunday the 20th, then the first day is completed on Monday the 21st.
Then when you get to Pentecost 2012, the 980th day will just be ending.
You're skipping one full day by ending the count at the beginning of the 980th day, when really you should be ending the count at the end of the 980th day (which is also the beginning of the 981st day, Pentecost 2012)
"980 days" requires that 24 hours pass through all 980 days. The way you're figuring, only 979 days pass.
980 is evenly divisible by 7, which is the number of days in a week. So 980 days is 140 weeks.
If the 980 days begins on a Sunday (at the beginning of that day) then it ends on a Saturday (at the end of that day).
For the end day to include a Pentecost, which is a Sunday, the 980-day count has to start at the beginning of a Monday. Weinland's new timeline of 980 days began at the beginning of Monday, September 21 in order to include Pentecost of 2012. Since Weinland's first 280 days end at the end of the day on Saturday, September 19 (Trumpets), that leaves Sunday September 20 between the 280 days and the 980 days which I call the Weinland Gap.
What happened on September 20? I imagine that Ron was still recovering from the malady which prevented him from speaking live on September 19, the day of 40 weeks of judgment.
J said...
RK, I don't think that works.
"If you start on Sunday the 20th, then the first day is completed on Monday the 21st".
"Then when you get to Pentecost 2012, the 980th day will just be ending."
J, I think we're both saying the same thing.
Looking at your statement, above, starting on Sunday the 20th, the beginning of Monday marks the completion of day Number One, which is Sunday.
As you also said, "that when we get to Pentecost 2012, the 980th day will be ending".
And that makes Pentecost the 981st day. The ending of day 980 marks the beginning of day 981, which is Pentecost.
And that is exactly what I am saying, that Pentecost is Not included in the 980 days, if you start the count on Sunday.
Mike DDTFA has it exactly right.
Mike said,
"If the 980 days begins on a Sunday (at the beginning of that day) then it ends on a Saturday (at the end of that day)".
And "For the end day to include a Pentecost, which is a Sunday, the 980-day count has to start at the beginning of a Monday".
And that is exactly right.
The problem I was pointing out was that, according to Anonymous October 12, 2009 7:00 PM, "By what Ron said in the LGD sermon, he's starting the count with the next day..., Sunday".
And so what I was saying was that if you start the count with Sunday, you will wind up with Pentecost being the 981st day.
Hence, the "Weinland Gap", in order to make Pentecost the 980th day.
You also said,
"You're skipping one full day by ending the count at the beginning of the 980th day, when really you should be ending the count at the end of the 980th day (which is also the beginning of the 981st day, Pentecost 2012".
I wasn't ending the count at the beginning of the 980th day.
I was ending the count at the END of day 980, which makes Pentecost the 981st day, just like you said above.
That's why I say that we're both saying the same thing.
Communicating by typing on a keyboard is difficult.
:)
J, I have one question for you, and I will respect your anonymity.
Are you "J" from Shadows of WCG, or are you "J" whose mother is "E"?
Hi RK,
All that counting has gotten me confused, so I'll take yours and Mike's word for it. :D
No, I am not the J from Shadows of WCG. I went over there and saw that we use the same name. I may be wrong, but I think the other J posts on these blogs as "Purple Hymnal".
I'm the J who posts on Mike's and Dill Weed's blogs. I regularly speak about my mother who is a member of PKG, but she is not "E", she is "L", not that I have ever named her on here.
I can say confidently that "J of Shadows" is not Purple Hymnal.
But Purple Hymnal has also posted as "AggieAtheist" and "WeinlandWatch".
"J of Shadows" has not been active as of late, and "Aggie/Purple" has been trying not to be ;)
Sorry, my mistake.
Anytime you see a J in a blog comments section, it's me. Anywhere else, it is not. :)
wow...everyone has stopped blogging, guess you've must of finally figured out that Mr. Weinland has been right all along. Look whats happend since the beginning of 2011...and thats only the beginning. Read Hosea chapter 4 verses 1-6.
Mr. Weinland has been right all along
Mr. Weinland has been wrong all along. Not one thing he has prophesied has come true. Yet he continues to come up with excuses.
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