ON WITH THE SHOW

Ronald Weinland vs Jesus Christ was the subject of my last post. It turned into a debate between the doctrine of Ronald Weinland's PKG, and the sound words of Jesus Christ. I provide
"1Ti 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing."
as righteous judgement against Ronald Weinland, a false prophet who is deceived and deceiving.(Or he is a con artist raking in the money like his deceased mentor, HWA.) The words in the Bible wins hands down!

And now, on with the show. From the Netherlands, False Prophet Ronald Weinland continued twisting the Word, with his two hour reading of 1 John chapter 4. Two hours to read three paragraphs! That's because it had to be explained as to what it really means, instead of what it says in plain english. It fittingly starts with "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already."

Ron deflects the conscious minds of his listeners away from understanding plain english, by using his standard sorcery with the old "come in the flesh" trick. Here is his method:

"Prophet Weinland" says the Bible is full of horrible translation errors, and "come in the flesh" really means "coming in the flesh". Ron wants you to believe that anyone who confesses that Jesus is coming in the flesh, is of God. (has "come in my flesh", or He is living inside of me, is what it really means.) This is how he deceives you. He changes a word in a sentence which causes you to think about that change instead of the printed words. The Bible was translated into english by people with PhD's. They were scholars who studied foreign languages, but Ron wants you to believe that he is a much more learned scholar than the twenty or thirty (or hundreds) professors that did the original translations. These translations were compared to the ancient manuscripts by modern day Professors and they did not find any notable discrepancies. But since Ron is God and Ron's word is infallable, you will listen to him and ignore the true words along with all his failed prophecies, which have not happened and will not happen. Why? Because he is a false prophet, just like in the first sentence of 1 John 4.(which Ron took two hours to read so he could use all that time to muddle your minds, and keep you from the truth so you will keep giving him money)

Now here is what your Bible says:
At the time of Jesus the Jews were waiting for the Messiah to "come in the flesh" and in the likeness of mankind (from Spirit of God to flesh of man). This is what in the flesh means. He has come in the flesh. He is here. He is among mankind "in the flesh". Jesus came in the flesh two thousand years ago. He left in the flesh two thousand years ago.

Ron says it is a mistranslation. Well let us look at Ronald Weinland's puffed up knowledge versus 25 different english translations.

Ronald's Deceptive Version (RDV) Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh

1 John 4:2

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(ASV) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

(BBE) By this you may have knowledge of the Spirit of God: every spirit which says that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God:

(Bishops) Hereby shall ye knowe the spirite of God: Euery spirite that confesseth that Iesus Christe is come in the fleshe, is of God:

(Darby) Hereby ye know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses Jesus Christ come in flesh is of God;

(DRB) By this is the spirit of God known. Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

(EMTV) By this the Spirit of God is known: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

(ERV) This is how you can recognize God's Spirit. One spirit says, "I believe that Jesus is the Messiah who came to earth and became a man." That Spirit is from God.

(ESV) By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

(Geneva) Hereby shall ye know the Spirit of God, Euery spirit which confesseth that Iesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God.

(GNB) This is how you will be able to know whether it is God's Spirit: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus Christ came as a human being has the Spirit who comes from God.

(GW) This is how you can recognize God's Spirit: Every person who declares that Jesus Christ has come as a human has the Spirit that is from God.

(ISV) This is how you can recognize God's Spirit: Every spirit who acknowledges that Jesus the Messiah has become human—and remains so—is from God.

(KJV) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

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(KJV-1611) Hereby know ye the spirit of God: euery spirit that confesseth that Iesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God.

(LEB) By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

(LITV) By this know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

(MKJV) By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God;

(Murdock) By this the Spirit of God is known, every spirit that confesseth that Jesus the Messiah hath come in the flesh, is of God.

(RV) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

(Vulgate) in hoc cognoscitur Spiritus Dei omnis spiritus qui confitetur Iesum Christum in carne venisse ex Deo est

(Webster) By this ye know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ hath come in the flesh, is from God:

(WNT) The test by which you may recognize the Spirit of God is that every spirit which acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come as man is from God,

(YLT) in this know ye the Spirit of God; every spirit that doth confess Jesus Christ in the flesh having come, of God it is,


What's going on here? Ronald Weinland cannot and will not say that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. What does the Bible say about those who will not say Jesus has come in the flesh? Read it.

1 John 4:3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already.

The word "coming" was used in that sentence, Ron. So all those translators, ancient and modern, know the difference between the words come and coming!

The only thing wrong with the Bible translation is the person who is preaching it. Or should I say the person who is supposed to be preaching it, instead of twisting the words around and around till they mean nothing of what they were intended.

Ronald Weinland uses your money to travel the world preaching the gospel? With the internet available to us, why does he need to travel? Does he lay his hands on the sick to cure them, growing arms and legs, and curing cancer? Can he walk on water? No, but he sure can gather in the tithes. You are paying Ronald Weinland to lie to you, and hide the true gospel of Jesus Christ from you. Jesus' gospel is the promise of eternal life. HWA and his son Teddy are rotting in the ground, not having received the promise of Life. Ronald Weinland is a whitewashed tomb.

Ron says Mother Theresa was selfishly motivated. What is selfish about living in filth and helping the filthy? I've never met her and I bet Ron never did either. But she was wrong too because she is dead. I'm going to stop now. I'm pretty sure I got my point across about Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. False Prophet Ronald Weinland has taken up enough of my time today, but if even one person one hundred people realize what Ron is and get away, it is worth it. Especially if children are involved. Ten years of giving money to any preacher is a college/university education for a child. Would Ron think you selfish if you put your kid through college?


Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

This one is just for Ron and his die-hards:

Acts 7:54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him.

So Much to Say

"now will the ruler of this world be cast out" -- Jesus Christ (John 12:31)


I received a comment by Dan on the Harold Camping Struck Dumb post, and I had so many issues to respond to, I decided to make a new post to address some of these issues which many followers of Armstrongism and Ronald Weinland, are bound to have. And after reading all this I'd say Armstrongism, Ronald Weinland, and pretty well every other church.

Dan said...
Brother,

Do not perceive this as judgement-but please reconsider the way you are spreading the truth.

As a former WCG member, breaking free of that bondage was incredibly difficult-only by the grace of God, our Lord and Savior who is come. I had no idea these splinter groups had gained so much strength until it crossed my mind to do a little searching.

Yes, tell the truth and bring forth the light-expose everything you can-but I strongly suggest do not mock them or antagonize them. As a former follower, I know they are BLIND and only think YOU are being deceived. You have to love them (God created them) and PRAY for truth to be revealed to them. Do not forget what Jesus did on the cross-he prayed for us to be forgiven even to his last breath!! The spiritual strongholds that oppress these people are very powerful and mainly perpetuated by fear from satan. Send out a call to prayer to all your readers-it's urgent!

I suggest you look at your blog home page and see what you might be mocking. I especially discourage mocking Satan. Do you really think anyone deserves to be equated to Satan? I can't imagine that winning Jesus Christ's approval. Can you imagine him asking you why you did that? Do you really think it's a way God would choose to reach out to these people? Leave the judgement to God, my Brother.

Dan

Dear Dan,

Thank you for your comments. I don't believe I have ever mocked those who follow Ron. If you can find an instance where I mocked PKG members please point it out to me.

I suggest you look at your blog home page and see what you might be mocking

Be specific next time. Please and thank you.

As for Ron wearing the costume of an enchanter, I have no regrets. I portray him as what he is. He does not preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. If you think he does then you should read the testimony of Jesus Christ again. I have no fear of Satan because I have read "Resist the devil and he shall flee". Flee means run away fast to get away from the thing that is trying to capture or kill you.

You said:

"Send out a call to prayer to all your readers-it's urgent!"

I don't tell people how to pray as I think that is a personal matter between them and God. Jesus told us how, when, where, why, and what to pray for. It's in the gospel.

As to mocking;

definition -- Making fun of someone or something in a cruel way; derisive

How am I being cruel to Ron? It is apparent to me that he is a False Prophet. Or do you mean I am being cruel to Satan? I quote scripture that clearly contradicts what Weinland is teaching. I use the RSV because it is plain english which is easily understood by those who have never read the Bible. I have compared it to the KJV and found little difference. I will use whatever version others are using during a discussion to avoid controversy. And if someone does not want to talk about God, I talk about what they want to talk about.

Ron says to use the King James version but I have heard him say it is a "horrible translation inspired by the Jews". He says that because he wants the Bible to say what he wants it to say, not what is printed on the pages. Is my posting of scripture mocking?

1Ti 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,

1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions,

1Ti 6:5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

Is "peace be with you" residing in Ron and his followers, or are they lashing out at those who expose him for what his is? A false prophet waxing fat on the money of his followers.

You also said: "Leave the judgement to God, my Brother"

Should I, and the other antiWeinland blogs stop exposing him as a false prophet? No way! Didn't Armstrong used to say "Cry aloud and spare not...." We can all cherry pick whatever we want out of the Bible, but the words that came out of Jesus Christ's mouth are indisputable to me.

Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Joh 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Joh 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Joh 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

I agree with this. Of sin, because no one really truly believes in Jesus or there would not be such a mess in All the churches of Christianity. Of righteousness, because no one has gone to heaven except Jesus, no matter how righteous they think they may be. Of judgment, because Satan has been impeached powerless, and chained up along with his "demons".

I have doubt you will reply. Whenever I quote scripture in forums about Ronald Weinland, most people stop talking or disappear. I guess they are afraid the Word of Jesus might contradict the word of their preacher/beliefs. Best to just put it out of mind, right?

Do all you church-goers think Jesus is pleased when you give money to a rich preacher instead of some bum on the sidewalk, or a poverty stricken family three streets over, or a food bank?

I'd better stop now or this is going to turn into a sermon. I read the Gospels and I believe what Jesus said, and he said: All who came before me, were thieves and robbers. Why would I want to read the old testament when Jesus has given me a new one? A new promise of eternal life.



Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

Struck Dumb

"Mr. Camping shortly after his smack down by GOD; now he knows why we fear THE LORD!"


Harold Camping won't be telling any more lies. This picture was clipped from his latest sermon video, and hopefully his last.

Latest info states he is communicating with his wife in slurred speech and the paralysis is on the right side of his body.

Ronald Weinland take warning. God sometimes punishes those who cause others to commit suicide or destroy their families and children. When God punishes, it is for real. Not like your phoney punishings of ministers and critics.

Harold Camping knows what it is like to stop preaching in the middle of a sentence. Now he can just disappear.

IF RON BECOMES DULL

Ron's pre-recorded sermon from the Netherlands held a few surprises. He has always posted his sermons in Windows Media Player format. Yesterday's sermon was presented using a Quicktime Pro plug-in Version 7.6.9

Ron's thunderous trumpet where the media will give him more attention has not yet materialized. I have a feeling with this new delivery system, we will be seeing and hearing him on the internet soon. This way he can self fulfill his prophecies.

Ron said over the years he has seen people leave God's church every year. "If you find the church becoming dull, you are in spiritual trouble". Which led me to the title of today's post, IF RON BECOMES DULL, you are on your way out of trouble.

Another quote from Ron which he made during his often irritations with air conditioning/heating, "In another year we wont have to worry about tight collars" I've been listening to Ron since 2008 and he does seem to have problems with heating and cooling.

He is going to be heated up in May when he has problems. Hopefully he will cool down in jail.

Ronald Weinland Is Getting Confused

Ron has laid so many stories in front of us that he is starting to get confused. During his sabbath day sermon about himself, he forgot what he's said about Jesus not pre-existing. Here is what he said word for word while talking about Jesus being perfect:

"He was the Word made flesh"

Usually he contradicts what the Bible says, but this time he contradicted his own words. Those of you who know of Ronald Weinland's deceptions will remember numerous times he has explained that Jesus was not the Word, and did not exist before his birth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Does this mean Ron is going to renounce Armstrongism and leave the dark side for the truth of the Word? Or is it proof that he still does not know what he is talking about, and doesn't care?

It is now less than a year till Ron and the missus are killed in the streets of Jerusalem by the beast power. Really?