Ronald Weinland described his internet search of his name during his latest sermon. He found all this garbage about how he didn't pay to have his house built. He never discusses any of the important issues that contradict him, just whatever minor issues he can use to divert attention from discussing greater things, like actual scripture which convicts him of falsehood.
He then went on to the youtube link he had previously posted on the COG-PKG site. He put up the link because it played to his ego. But now he has removed it. Quite obviously on account of so many of the commentors telling his followers to look up some scripture that contradicts what he says.
He seemed concerned that some of his followers were enticing the positive commentors to join the church and get baptised. He had this to say about that:
"We don't even do that in the ministry. We don't try to encourage people to get baptised."
Amazing. I thought a church pastor was supposed to lead people to Jesus and baptise all who desire to take the water of life without price. Apparently not in the PKG. Then he spends an hour explaining passover. Towards the end of his sermon he makes this bold statement:
"If you're not baptised, you cannot participate in the passover."
I wouldn't advise you to tell that to the Jews in Jerusalem!
At the beginning he said his ministry doesn't encourage people to get baptised. On his web site he says you have to be 18 years of age, and give tithe$, before you can be bapti$ed. And in the end he says if you're not bapti$ed you can't participate in the passover. Whatever happened to "God is love"? Or love thy neighbour?
Hey Ron, did you keep your lamb without blemish separate from all the others? Maybe it's tied up in your garage so you can kill it before sundown.
I've come to the conclusion that not only do you think you can rewrite the bible, you just want to tell people what to do and your word is law. You are quite the humble power-tripper.
Ever heard this before?: -- "do this in remembrance of me"
28 comments:
Jack,
The only love you know is Satan's love. Satan loves you because he has you soooooooo deceived. Satan is your god. Admit it. You'll feel good about yourself for once.
Jack,
You are spot on about Ronald Weinland. He is a con artist at best. One thing is for sure; He does not know the true Jesus, who is the KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
Anon 6:35am said:
"Satan is your god. Admit it."
Only someone who has been deceived would write something like that. Is that a Christian thing to say?
Jesus is my salvation. The Spirit of truth dwells within me. Satan has no power over me. That is why I feel good and at peace. A true minister of God cannot have anger dwelling within him. Just ask the congregation in Franklin.
"Is that a Christian thing to say?"
Exactly!
Weinland followers ALWAYS tell those who disagree with them that they are of Satan, and ALWAYS in a taunting elitist manner. Where's that trademark COG-PKG humility?
"You shall not curse the deaf nor place a stumbling block before the blind; you shall fear your God - I am your Lord." (Leviticus 19:14)
Mr. Anonymous believes Jack to be blind, and then violates God's law by taunting him for it.
Ronald Weinland: the blind leading the blind.
What do you think all you idiots are doing???
That's definitely not a Christian attitude.
What exactly do you think YOU are doing?
Oh I see, just because you think you're right in what you believe, that justifies the mocking, arrogant attitude you and Jack have. You both reek of hypocrisy.
I am astonished by the misplaced arrogance of Weinland's followers.
Amazing!!!!
And the last comment, reeking of hypocrisy, accuses Jack of hypocrisy.
Dumbfounding!!!
The typical Mike response. It's dumbfounding that you can't see your own hypocrisy.
Mr. Anonymous,
If you read the bible regularly, you wouldn't be saying the things you are saying.
I have the advantage of never being a member of a "church". That is why I read the new testament every day. Why do you hate me so much? I am only speaking the truth that I have read and seen.
Have I offended you by affixing my seal to my profile?
Uh, telling the truth is not hypocrisy.
Have you noticed that Weinland supporters never defend Weinland as a prophet? They just resort to name calling. "You're a hypocrite!" "You are son of Satan!"
They do this because they can't give an answer. The Bible says to always be ready to give a defense to your beliefs. They can't defend something that is indefensible, hence the name calling.
"The only love you know is Satan's love. Satan loves you because he has you soooooooo deceived."
That's interesting. According to the Bible, it is the false prophet who is thrown into the lake of fire with Satan. It seems the false prophet has more in common with Satan than Jack who loves Jesus. I seem to recall it is Weinland who denies Jesus as God. If you deny Him you deny God. Seems pretty clear from scripture which side Weinland falls on.
Jack,
No hard feelings.., really. But I have to ask you...., how do you know what you believe to be God's truth is the truth? Where's your proof? You have none. What you believe is your own interpretation of the scriptures in the Bible. Just because a billion or so people agree with you (or somewhat agree with you) doesn't make your beliefs the right one.
Anonymous, you said "What you believe is your own interpretation of the scriptures in the Bible. " I could say the same about you, Cog-pkg members, and Ronald Weinland with just as much confidence. ...You keep coming back here to convince yourself ,not Jack, that Ronald isn't a fraud. Wake up to the truth!
As a Born again Christian , I agree with you Jack. Again , good job.
Rob,
You said, "You keep coming back here to convince yourself ,not Jack, that Ronald isn't a fraud. Wake up to the truth!"
I can say the same about you. You coming here again and agian can be seen as just a pathetic attempt to convince yourself that you are not deceived. Nice try though.
Jack, you wrote:-
"Ever heard this before?: -- "do this in remembrance of me"
Yes, I did read it in:-
"Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."
and
"1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me."
and
"1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me."
such words spoken before the "Passover" as in:-
" Joh 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;"
Probably, if you look at it very closely, two nights before 'the feast of the passover'.
Anonymous 5:13
"But I have to ask you...., how do you know what you believe to be God's truth is the truth? Where's your proof? "
Because it is written in my Bible.
Ask me a question and I will tell you the truth with a word for word quote from the bible.
"What you believe is your own interpretation of the scriptures in the Bible."
The bible needs no interpretation. Read what it says, not what you think it means.
Ask me a question and I will tell you the truth with a word for word quote from the bible.
Show of hands, does anyone else think it's funny that anonymous-Weinlander is here mocking and scoffing? Isn't that what RW is always ranting and raving about?
Now THAT'S hypocrisy!
Rob said...
Anonymous, How am I deceived? Not one thing printed in Ron's book "2008 God's Final Witness" has come true. Of course, Ron has the power to change his prophecies like some people change socks (lol). It is books, like Ron's ,that make a mockery of the Christian Faith to a lost world.--- The only reason I keep up on this [Ronald Weinland] nonsense, is because I have a sibling that bit into the lies of this CULT.---- I am with Jack... Jesus , who is God, is my salvation; I am safe in Him. You should read the testimony of Jesus Christ to learn the Truth. Either way , I will be praying for you as I do my brother. Goodbye Anonymous.
March 25 11:55pm
Sorry Rob, I censored that. I've never redacted a comment before. I hope you understand why I modified that sentence. I hope I have not offended you.
"Show of hands, does anyone else think it's funny that anonymous-Weinlander is here mocking and scoffing? Isn't that what RW is always ranting and raving about?"
Yeah, and what's even funnier is that you could classify most of Ron Weinland's sermons a 2 hour mocking. Listen to him mock everyone who doesn't believe him. I honestly have never heard any genuine compassion coming from his lips in any of his sermons. In fact, that's all he can do since his "witness" is over.
Ever ask yourself, if God's Final Witness ended at the close of 2008, then why do we still need two witnesses? Ask Ron that question all you disciples of Ron.
I would like to give 50 reasons why Ronald Weinland has to prove that he is who he says he is ,and it is published on the Church of God-pkg website under publications link called "The 50 Truths of God"
They have been given to set the Church of God-pkg apart from all other the scattered church and the churches of the world to show where God is working .
The 50th truth was given to God's church to show the exact time of the return of our King Jesus Christ will return to this earth .
Whether it is taken seriously now is of no accord because it is God's plan and His will that Ronald Weinland give this to the world.
A lot of people have a different outlook on the way they think things should happen in the end-times but it is not for us to decide how God's plan comes to pass . It is God .
God is in control how everything is to unfold and then it is given to His son Jesus Christ .
Like it or not Ronald Weinland is head of the Body of Christ on this earth under Jesus Christ .
You all may like putting Ronald Weinland down ,but it is not really him that you are are fighting . It is GOD and GOD's plan.
I am a low income father with 2 children . The Church of God-pkg has welcomed me into their fold after God opened me into the His truth . I was told that because of my situation that it wasn't necessary to Tithe .
After baptism I was given the opportunity to share in the Feast of Tabernacles . My hotel and food was looked after seeing I couldn't afford it on my own . 10 times the cost than I ever offered in for offerings .
I have never in my life been welcomed into a family atmosphere like I have since I was welcomed into God's true family of the Church of God-pkg .
At this point in the game there is nothing that will shake my faith in God's church and His spokesman for the Two Witnesses of Revelation .
Most of what I have read here sounds more like jealousness because they do not like God's choice for his prophet . We are not in control of that decision . God is .
I know I have been called into the truth along with many others who all are of the same mind . That is how God works . He places His truth in our minds like a seed and then the spirit grows the longer we are in God's church .
The great thing about the truth is we really do not have to argue the facts about it . It will become reality in do time .
The Church of God-pkg is the Noah's Ark of our generation . How many people will be clawing to get in after it is already to late ?
Godbless
Mr. Anonymous, I mean Maritimes Canada... (yeah, saying "Godbless" at the end gave you away there) I find it very odd that you are here.
You've decided to embrace a website and ignore the Bible. Anybody can make up "truths". The Bible is a perfect absolute book, made for us so there could be no additions. You ignore God's criteria for identifying false prophets. Now are you even ignoring your own words?
"I can not personally be part of a forum that has decided Ronald Weinland is a false prophet." What a difference two days makes.
Jack, Sorry about that. I actually like the new sentence better anyway. It truly is all about Jesus.
Anon 4:05pm. and other Weinlanders : The LORD Jesus is "the Noah's Ark" of all generations; if HE is your Salvation then you are safe in Him. To say any church is your salvation, PKG or otherwise, is not only crass legalism but a heresy.
Maritimes Canada,
I'm actually glad you're here, you seem like a nice enough person, but you are very sincerely wrong. I, like many others posting here, love God as much as you claim to, and I believe, like I'm sure you do, that it is God Who drew me to Him, and called me into His kingdom.
I don't personally know anyone else who posts here, but I think all would agree that we are not in the least jealous of RW; we don't believe God has chosen him because he has failed the test of a prophet, it's just that simple. God doesn't give His prophets false information to test them, you've been lied to.
I say this not to argue with you, or put you down, but to prevail upon you to stay the course the Bible has set before you. Do not trust in a man who has clearly shown he is not God's prophet, or have faith in any book other than the Bible.
What you are hearing people say here and on other blogs is not simple mindless mockery, which in and of itself proves nothing, but those who, as the Bible instructs, are testing all things, holding fast to that which is good. That means letting go of things that are not.
If nothing can shake your faith in RW then you may already be lost, but I pray that you will open your eyes to see RW for who he really is, and turn back to God. A false prophet cannot lead you to the One you say you love. No one here wishes you harm, in fact I believe all care about you and all those who have been taken in by RW.
angel
"The Church of God-pkg is the Noah's Ark of our generation . How many people will be clawing to get in after it is already to late ?"
No, Jesus is the Noah's Ark of our generation.
The fundamental problem with Ron Weinland (and so many other false religions) is that he doesn't understand who Jesus is. His view of Jesus is closer to Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, and Buddhism than Christianity since they all deny Jesus is God. While there may be some in his flock that have a personal relationship with Jesus, the organization as a whole is sick and toxic which will ultimately separate one from God.
I think the fundamental problem with all religions is they don't read what Jesus said. If I say I walked across the street, it means I walked across the street. I didn't run. I didn't crawl. I walked. It wasn't an avenue or a highway, it was a street. There is no secret meaning to "I walked across the street".
It's the same with the word of God. If you read it in the bible, it means exactly what it says. No secret or hidden meanings. Why would a loving God seek to confuse and lead astray with secret meanings? Satan is a liar, not Jesus Christ.
If anyone tells you that you should do something contrary to what is written in the testimony of Jesus Christ, that person is a liar and a thief.
If you read the gospel without someone looking over your shoulder telling you what it means, you will understand and life will become easy.
What on earth does this mean?: The truth shall set you free.
Happy are those who are set free.
Anonymous 5:13
said:
"But I have to ask you...., how do you know what you believe to be God's truth is the truth? Where's your proof? "
Mister Anonymous
I have patiently awaited your response to my answer, but you have not responded.
Is it because I answer with the Word of God? Surely you can back up what you are saying by quotes from the bible.
Well, I cannot wait any longer. Time for a new post to defend the Word of God against the word of Ron. My God always wins. His name is Jesus.
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