Up here in Canada, something wonderful is about to happen which proves to me that I live in a free country. Our prime minister (the equivalent of your president) is about to be removed from office after a little over one month of being re-elected.
Due to ineffective governing and lack of policy, Steven Harper is going to receive a vote of non confidence by the opposing elected officials on monday. The remaining politicians will form a government. Now that is democracy in action.
Having to put up with an ineffectual leader, who makes carefree mistakes is something the people of Canada do not have to suffer. How many countries in the world can the people have their leader removed without bloodshed and uprisings?
Unfortunately for the people of the Ronald Weinland Church of Broken Promises, they do not seem to have this power. Surely after the 14th of December they will start to hunger for the truth. Ronald Weinland says he will "start his job" as end time prophet and witness of the Revelation in less than two weeks.
I hereby cast my vote of non confidence in Ronald Weinland. Of all the terrors and horrors he has prophesied, nothing will happen after Dec 14th and President-elect Obama will take office on Jan 20th.
Give it up Ron. Release the captives! Let them READ their own bibles.
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In the various CoGs, voting is allowed. But the only allowed form of voting is with your feet.
Unfortunately COG-PKG members choose to accept the lame excuses of a demonstrated false prophet.
This is interesting, Jack. I guess there are some advantages to parliamentary law. Really the only thing I know about law in the Crown countries is from the Canadian TV shows that make it down here to us, like "DaVinci's Inquest", and "Cold Squad". I also used to enjoy "The Crow" which was filmed in Canada.
The only negative things I've heard about your country are the cold weather and the horribly restrictive gun laws. I've enjoyed Canadian rock n roll and occasionally whiskey for years!
BB
I dunno, I'm of two minds about the whole thing; on the one hand, I voted for Dion, so I should be happy he's getting into office, and trying to make right what Harper made so very, very, very wrong (in no small part because Harper and most of his party members all belong to the Christian Missionary Alliance cult);
On the other hand, I don't know if I'm very happy about the WAY Dion and Layton are doing it; smacks of a very civilized coup d'etat, which seems a bit like a dictatorship to me. Especially since Layton's involved. It's not for nothing the NDP started its political life as the Canadian Communist Federation.
That goes to show how much I still can't stomach watching the news; the first I heard of this whole uproar was on the ex-CoG Internet. :-)
Is December 14th a "trumpet day" or something?
Weinland can't point even to ONE thing he has predicted that has come true. Not one!
And of course, he simply says that the things he predicted came true, just not in a way that we could see.
How stupid!?
For a long time I thought he was simply misguided and a bit of a nut. Now I think he is an outright liar and conman.
I'm looking for last ditch straws that the Weiner Dude could grasp at. The Armstrongists, we would all have to admit, do have a habit of furiously fanning nearly non-existent flames. We've watched them do this for decades with every insignificant news event occurring in Europe. The news has just hit that economists say our recession actually began in November-December 2007. That, unfortunately, does give RW some little information to work with and exploit. All we need now is a small tremor in Californa, or a fresh case of "mad cow" disease, and his delusions will be in full blown revival mode.
BB
The End Time.
Could there be a more important time for God’s spokesman for the Two Witnesses of Revelation to speak loud and clear?
Mr. Harrell, I’ve taken the lilberty of notifying 60 Minutes that Ron and Laura are The Two Witnesses of Revelation and they have a message they need to get out. This may give you a head start on arranging publicity for The Two Witnesses. I’ll leave the rest to you.
Some Suggestions Ron:
1. Ron, when God’s talking - take notes.
a. You’ll be less prone to ramble.
b. You’ll be able to state with certainty and specificity what God tells you.
c. You’ll be able to tell your listeners whether a prophecy will be fulfilled spiritually or literally thus avoiding confusion. Not too much to ask from a prophet, is it?
2. Ron, if you don’t understand or are unclear what God is saying, ask questions.
a. He picked you as the spokesman for the Two Witnesses, you have the right and the responsibility to ask if something is unclear or if you don’t quite understand, no? Is that too much to expect?
b. He appointed you the spokesman for the other Witness, so you are doubly responsible for getting it right, no?
c. By asking until you understand, you can avoid having to explain why things don’t happen they way you said they would happen. This goes back to clarity.
d. Don’t speculate. Just tell us what God’s saying. Give it to us straight.
e. Lastly, as I am sure you’re aware, God says if the words of prophet do not come true, do not fear him. Speak accordingly.
f. Prophets prophecy they don’t speculate.
Ron, despite what has gone here-to-fore, you have this opportunity, a reset given to yourself by yourself, to prove you are God’s End Time prophet.
Ron, I am certain God wants you to get it right. Don’t be afraid to ask questions and take notes. God will appreciate it and so will I. We’ll be listening.
What will you prove to be?
Dill Weed
Byker Bob, the false prophet is fanning the flames of the economy. But not a word about the other failed thunders. Particularly no mention that "Spanky" Rod Meredith and all the other ministers on Weinland's death list are still alive.
"the only allowed form of voting is with your feet"
True, but I believe half the congregation's feet are fettered with fear.
Weinland can't point even to ONE thing he has predicted that has come true. Not one!
Maybe those nuclear explosions in coastal cities are spiritual.
All we need now is a small tremor in Californa, or a fresh case of "mad cow" disease, and his delusions will be in full blown revival mode.
the false prophet is fanning the flames of the economy
Ron is fanning the only flame he can find and his arms aren't getting tired yet. In the event of sheer coincidental disaster in december, he will fan that into an inferno which will fetter the feet of the rest of his deceived sheep.
Then the poor little grannies who have been holding onto their retirement funds may be swayed into letting Ron help them loosen their purse strings, to assist him in doing the "work".
I wish I knew how to post an audio recording on this blog. I have a recording of Ron saying "blah blah blah, blah blah-blah blaah"
It would be perfect for a post I could entitle HEAR WHAT RONALD WEINLAND IS SAYING TO THE WORLD.
Dr. Mike?
Except that all too many people hear a message in "blah blah blah" and give themselves over to a false prophet.
After recovering from my laughter, I realized that is sadly true.
There are those who would "read into it".
“A New Era Has Begun.” - So sayeth Ron.
The Laodecian Era is over. Ron enjoys site seeing. Blah, blah, blah….
Dec. 14 begins 1260 days… The End is nigh. Blah, blah, blah….
Resharpened, tweaked focus since 8 months ago… brought more suckers, people in. We’re selling more books. Blah, blah, blah….
Admitted to some legal trouble regarding funds placed in Switzerland. They are being moved back to U.S. under legal pressure. Income is increasing. Advertising will be increased. This is, of course, evidence of God’s blessing.
Israel humbled by 5 trumpets then no longer exists. EU ascends.
Dollar going to collapse mightily, Euro will struggle. Get out of the dollar.
Have some food supplies for a while, then rely on God.
Blah, blah, blah….
These things are “awesome and incredible to understand.”
Tick Tock.
Dill Weed
You'rew right about people hearing a message in the blah, blah, blah... parts.
It's kind of the like filler for most apocalyptic preaching.
It might be time to start considering how ole Ron is gonna talk his way out of a second round of failed prophecies.
God is allowing more time to bring 'sheep' in?
Will there be a fifty first truth?
Will Ron repent in burlap sacks and ashes?
Hmmm...
Dill Weed
Ron and Laura Weinland’s 1260 day ministry foretold in the Book of Revelation begins 12/14/08!
The Great Tribulation is upon us!
Momentus times, indeed!
The Two Witnesses of Revelation’s ministry is to the whole world – warning, condemning and punishing with the power God has granted them. Ron and Laura have a big job to do!
This is no time to keep one’s light under a basket. No, indeed!
The eyes of the world and the glorious hosts of heaven – and the Grand Host of Heaven himself will be watching!
Johnny Harrell, the PR person for the Two Witnesses of Revelation, has his work cut out.
Since the ministry has a message that needs to be delivered to the whole world, I have some suggestions I hope will be helpful.
1. Oprah – Yep, that’s right, Oprah. Where better to kick of this ministry? She’d probably agree to multiple shows. I suspect this would happen rather easily since Ron and Laura will both be imbued with God’s power. What a stage to announce and perform powerful acts and harsh judgments!
2. Late night and morning talk shows – Undoubtedly, there’s a wide audienced here. Interviews with Matt Lauer, Harry Reasoner, etc. could keep everyone up to date on the fulfillment of Ron's prophecies. For actual physical events, news crews could be dispatched to report - especially for any doubters. This seems like a no brainer to me.
3. Barbra Walters – Need I say more?
4. Specials – Undoubtedly, as Ron’s prophecies and his powerful works begin to be noticed there will be an opportunity for special TV shows. I imagine by this time cable and network executives will actively be seeking out The Two Witnesses.
Ron, its time to let your God given light shine!
Tick-tock.
Dill Weed
Wow, Dill Weed, that's right! There's only four more days till Ron blows his trumpet. And here I am down in civilization, unable to get back to my wilderness cabin for at least two more weeks.
Whatever shall I do?
I see there hav been a lot of posts on the weinland blogs. I'll try and get online tomorrow.
As far as End Time date settting goes, Ron is a unskilled hack.
JWs have finally gotten it right after hacking away for years. After setting many dates for The End and watching them come and go, the JW oligarchy cut loose their latest measurable date - the generation of 1914. It was said that when they were all gone The End would come. Their were several adjustments to this to extend the time – all the while keeping the urgency for believers cranked up. That kept up membership and new recruits coming in. Now, The End is always right around the corner dates can be implied and discarded as needed. Its less effective, but avoids embarrassment of failed predictions. Membership is down for JWs.
Keeping The End near, but ambiguous is key. If you can keep people’s fear whipped up you can shape their behavior. Ron may not have learned the folly of setting exact dates. He’s tied to a date now and he has a limited time to extract himself from it. Because he was so specific and makes the outlandish claim of being one of the Two Witnesses he has made it that much more difficult for himself. I don’t believe it will be possible for him to extricate himself from those claims. It’s likely that his movement will die with him. It may mutate into something else. COG seems to splinter better than Hollywood’s breakway glass. So, we’ll see.
It is O.K. to mock false prophets.
Dill Weed
The Prophet who was Wrong.
I found myself wondering what would be “awesome to know” in Ron’s sermon today. (And was I in for a surprise!)
I didn’t have to wait long as I went to download it. I checked for new posts (in addition to the sermon)and lo… there was one!
There is this gem:
… Laura and I are once again in Jerusalem as we were last April when we believed we were at this point in time then.
Wha?!
In April, when you believed AND announced to the world that The Great Tribulation had begun and that you and your wife were the Two Witnesses of Revelation? When you believed, but were… wrong?
What makes it different this time, Ron?
"And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days…"
Ron, you should be feeling pretty good as you have been imbued with power from God. I think there should be proof positive as to whether you are correct this time, no? And…
"these have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire…. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth."
Test whether you are correct this time. Ron, are you able to to perfom miracles? How are you going to “torment those who dwell on the earth”? (I think I’ve figured this out – through your sermons.)
Absolute proof Ron is deluded:
"This is a very sobering time for my wife and me as we are in the city that God prophetically describes as Sodom (spiritually). We are in a hotel room a block away from where we can look down upon one of the higher points of the old city and specifically at the Jaffa Gate. It is in this area where the two witnesses will be killed and three and one-half days later, Jesus Christ will begin His return to this earth as King of kings."
Ron believes he and his wife are going to be killed in Egypt in 1260 days.
I assume he wrote this with a straight face. (Chuckles) O.K., I’ll play along! (More chuckles) Ron, we looking forward to a lot more chuckles from you.
Intermission
Have you heard the bird is the word? Bird! Bird! Bird! Bird, is the word! – Peter Griffin. This is a super funny episode of Family Guy. Family Guy will punch your ticket to Hell, but you’ll go laughing. Family Guy has something to offend everyone. It’s a great show.
Sermon Summary
Ron got sick on some airline food… blah, blah, blah….
Things that are going to happen aren’t going to be “given” until they happen, so the demons aren’t tipped off.
Like demons could thwart God’s will, right?
Ron’s attempting to remove the expectation that he be specific. Weasel.
Egypt, the Nile… blah, blah, blah….
Book of Daniel, statue, legs of iron… blah, blah, blah….
Ron saw some pyramids… blah, blah, blah….
Apparently, did some sight seeing too…. blah, blah, blah….
Psalm 106… blah, blah, blah….
Its good to begin at the beginning of prayers (Wha?!)…blah, blah, blah….
Ron can’t comprehend how God hears everyone’s prayers at once… SO WHAT? Blah, blah, blah….
(It’s painful to listen to him wander.)… blah, blah, blah….
Blamed church members for doubting when what he said didn’t come true. (Imagine that!) It was Lacodecia creeping back into the church and members ‘couldn’t comprehend what happened or how big it was.’ (Yawn, gimme a friggin’ break) Tap dance continues…
Donkeys, tractors, Ramadan… blah, blah, blah….
FAQ contains more scriptural explanations. (Wonderful.)
Not going to debate about scriptures anymore. It’s a New Age. We tell it, you believe it or else. Literally.
Because ther church is no longer in the Laodician age…
Ron’s wife will be over all ministers! (This is too friggin’ good.)
Ron’s wife has been ordained as a prophet and therefore as a minister, an over-minister mind you, second only to Ron!
(Too funny, this is just too good!)
Laura’s role will intensify after the 5th trumpet. (Yeah!)
(Aww, man, it was worth listening just for this!)
All people (including all non-Weinland believers) will not recognize what is happening UNTIL the 2nd trumpet has sounded.
God speaks to Ron in his mind. (Eye roll)… blah, blah, blah….
Still expecting a large influx of people…. blah, blah, blah….
Trumpet of April 17th– not one of the Seven trumpets – just an warning toot. (O.K., Ron)…
In April, God’s Two End Time Witnesses were revealed 8 months early and the Pope came under the influence of Satan!
Ron calls these ‘thunders’. (Whatever.)
5th Trumpet 1/3 of U.S. will be destroyed. Uh-huh. (spiritually?)
1st Trumpet… starting Dec. 14th … hail, fire, 1/3 trees and grass burnt up, BUT THIS is spiritual - so don’t expect to see anything. (Big Surprise)
We’ll have to wait for the 2nd Trumpet and its physical evidence until everyone finally knows The Great Tribulation has begun.
Opponents will die spiritually and physically.
Tick Tock
Dill Weed
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